I've Gone to HELL in a Hand-basket
{This letter is from a ministry in Australia who requested a copy of the DVD that this site was offering for the latter part of 2007. Since I had run out of the SDA version of these DVDs, I suggested that he listen instead to the audio version of the DVDs at http://www.a4t.org/Audio/Stringfellow/bill_stringfellow.html
The letter below is a result of my response to him (my response is found after wards) after a couple of previous correspondences as a result of some very ill ndoctrinations....I am certain that my letters did not invoke in him the Truth as it is plainly given in Scripture, you are encouraged to write to this person if your soul so moves you to, sometimes God uses people in ways that may surprise us.}
Hello bro Bob De La Torre, 17ja08
Well you have well and truly outdone yourself this time.
The scant scripture, as you call it, tells the whole world that there are
Three, and that they are One. 1 John 5:7. It may not suit you, but it is still the Word of God.
In what you are doing:
-You have demolished the Bible.
-You have demolished Ellen G White.
-You have demolished the Godhead.
-You have demolished the Holy Spirit.
-You have demolished the Death, Burial and Resurrection.
What you teach is NOT Adventism. And what you teach is a Soul destroying FALSE DOCTRINE!And you have the cheek to call me deceived.
Lovingly LM77
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adventist4Truth" <adventist4truth@gmail.com
To: "lm77" <lm77@bigpond.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: DVD
Dear LM,
What can I say, but I told you so? The Bible does NOT teach that there is
a THIRD living Person in the heavens,...Ellen White DOES! If you have a
problem with this idea, then you obviously did NOT comprehend what I tried
to explain about Scripture's version of the crucifixion and resurrection
and Ellen White's version of the same events. You have to choose which to
believe and it is obvious that you are still a good SDA. I am not trying
to yell at you, brother, it is just so exasperating to write to someone
that comes back with all the Ellen White quotes and only provides scant
Scriptures. John 16 & 17 provides ample evidence that Christ told His
disciples that He would go away and that they would NOT see Him again, but
that He would ask His Father to send the Comforter to them. Before He
left, He took His disciples and BLEW upon them WHAT, LM?? And WHO was it
that breathed upon them so that they received the Holy Ghost?
Ellen White was on BOTH sides of the fence on this issue. How else would
you explain 6T 268.3? Which way is it, Did Christ always exist or was He
Begotten of the Father? Sir, you do need to take seriously the predicament
that you are in...both issues that I have brought to your attention are
salvational issues. 1 John 5:16 gives us one admonition AND Christ made
certain that before He left them that they clearly understood the
prophecies that foretold of His cinung and death. Once one the way to
Emmaus and then again in the Upper Room. The last one may not be a
salvational issie but how ARE YOU going to explain the True Sabbath to
someone when you yourself still believe that Christ was resurrected on
that day?? ... As you can tell I ask tough questions and I don't loose my
grip that easily. You need to pray as you have never prayed before, LM. You
are really not too far off after all the entire world believes as you do!!
How many Thrones are there in heaven? If the Holy Ghost is a Person
certainly He must have a place tosit somewhere in close proximity to
Himself< surly He must be a Being that is worshipped!
I realize that this is a VERY controversial subject for those as yourself
that put the Writings to be equal to OR above Scripture! SHAME ON YOU
Brother, what kind of dependence can God put on you if you cannot see
through this great facade?
Let me take a moment to explaining a few things to you, you can take them
or leave them, LM. The Holy Spirit is shared by the Father and His Son,
it
is what is called their Omnipresence, the means by which they communicate
with their human followers. This is the same power that was given in the
Upper Room experience. Christ, Himself is the Comforter, who else can it
be? Neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit have ANY saving grace upon
them, it is ONLY through the power and might of Jesus Christ that sin was
vanquished. Do you pray to the Holy Ghost? Why NOT Brother? I realize that
you have left the SDA Church but I was just curious if you took with you
one of their traits...
The Bible explains clearly in Hebrews 1 that Cod went before His created
angels and had them gather around the throne so that He, the FATHER could
introduce to them the NEW King of Kings and Lord of Lord. God the Father,
Himself addresses Jesus as God, before this the angels had only known Him
as God's Son, who was called Michael, who was also their leader. God now
elevates Christ to the status of GOD Almighty who the angels are to
worship as they do the Father. LM, please tell me if you understand who
the ONE individual was that had a problem??
Zecharius 6:13 tells me at least, that ONLY TWO Individuals were allowed
to share in the counsels of God in heaven. According to your thinking it
could only have been the Holy Ghost AND Christ!
Wake up!! brother, you have been indoctrinated for how many years did you
say! In fact, Doug Batchelor, in his Amazing Facts program gives credit
to
Ellen White for Adventist to uphold the doctrine of the trinity which is
a
pure pagan Rome doctrine! When is the last time you read the Statement of
Beliefs on the backside of Baptismal Certificates?
Brother LM, it is hard for me to view you as a brother that has seen the
Truth and to come out of the SDA Church, especially when you have not yet
recognized corrupted Scriptures in the Holy Bible. This is something that
Satan has ben at for hundreds and even thousands of years and is a well
recognized fact. Why even the SDA Commentary sheds this fact!. For your
interest only, I would highly recommend that you read "Comma Johanneun",
a
short document that I have on the site:
http://www.a4t.org/Sermons/Misc/wresch-comma_johanneum.html
I will let you do your own research into Matt. 28:19. I will simply tell
you that those were not Christ's words to His disciples. This can be
proven by how badly or how reverently the disciples followed His orders
in
the book of Acts and other Letters written by the Apostle Paul. Of course
Ellen White's writings are chock full of baptizing in the name of the
trinity! What else would one expect?
When Christ gave his warning in Matt. 24:24, U wonder if He meant to watch
out about being deceived by a little old lady named Ellen White? I do
acknowledge that she received some levels of inspiration...but the SDA
Church has taken this to mean a wholesale level of inspiration to cover
ALL her writings!
She teaches a version of purgatory and even hell that few have pondered
as
they read her words. She said that the wicked when they come to their
destruction will feel every pang of pain in their nerves and every fibre
of their body! What kind of a God do YOU serve that tortures those that
work against Him? Where in the Bible does it TEACH THAT? Even when we do
consider those peoples that He did destroy, was it a slow lingering
painfully excruciating pain? Obviously there will be major pain for the
lost, but it WILL be mental anguish not physical pain.
Yes, this letter was hard to write and I bet it was hard to read and to
think that it is applied to you. I write tough letters to those that are
most deceived as you seem to be. You have put your trust in the red books
when instead your trust should be in the red letters found in the Gospels
of many Bibles.
It was a shock to my soul when I discovered that I could no longer trust
the writings of this supposed "prophet." But the Bible is very
clear on
the Subject of Christ's death, that there WERE TWO different Sabbaths
taking place while Christ lay dead in the tomb AND NO, He did not sleep
clear through the weekly Sabbath as most believe. He arose BEFORE the sun
was set that Sabbath, otherwise the women that came to His tomb would have
found the tomb sealed and He still inside it. Read you Bible carefully for
once Brother and quite leaning on what you have been taught to believe by
Satan and his minions! What Ellen White write as the traditional views
that came from ROME and were carried on by the Methodist's training that
she had received. That was ALL she knew, obviously Christ or His angels
did NOT inform her otherwise, after all why should they?, It was all
perfectly laid out in Scripture for ANYONE to read and understand.
One more point needs to be brought out. The Bible does NOT teach anywhere
that her writings are to be called the Spirit of Prophecy. BUT the Bible
does give us clear instruction on WHO and WHAT the Spirit of Prophecy is.
It is the same Person who ALL the martyrs took to their graves or
stakes...whether it was sewn into their garments or engraved in their
hearts, He went with them....why not teach that the virgin Mary is God's
Mother? Why not believe that any church father can be selected by leaders
of the GC and to designate their writings to be as holy? Satan has truly
blown his spirit upon this church and they have obediently obeyed his
every wish. Christ plainly told us in Matt. 11:13 that John the Baptist
would be the LAST prophet. I guess He made an exception for Ellen White!
Of course Ellen wrote that this would happen that her writings would be
disregarded. Those words does not determine a prophet, speaking the Truth
and agreeing with the Bible is the only way that we are told in testing
a
prophet. In fact, in her book the GC, she is not even straight on what
happened during the French Revolution and she allowed Josiah Litch's
predictions to be published in her book! The Ottoman Empire WAS supposed
to be destroyed in 1840....It was finally destroyed, but NOT UNTIL 1922,
82 years LATER!! Did I miss a sacredly inspired test by which we were to
know if a prophet was sent from God??
Blessings always...no hard feelings, I'm just dismayed that you are so
easily deceived!
Bob De La Torre