I've Gone to HELL in a Hand-basket

{This letter is from a ministry in Australia who requested a copy of the DVD that this site was offering for the latter part of 2007. Since I had run out of the SDA version of these DVDs, I suggested that he listen instead to the audio version of the DVDs at http://www.a4t.org/Audio/Stringfellow/bill_stringfellow.html

The letter below is a result of my response to him (my response is found after wards) after a couple of previous correspondences as a result of some very ill ndoctrinations....I am certain that my letters did not invoke in him the Truth as it is plainly given in Scripture, you are encouraged to write to this person if your soul so moves you to, sometimes God uses people in ways that may surprise us.}

 

Hello bro Bob De La Torre, 17ja08

Well you have well and truly outdone yourself this time.
The scant scripture, as you call it, tells the whole world that there are Three, and that they are One. 1 John 5:7. It may not suit you, but it is still the Word of God.

In what you are doing:
-You have demolished the Bible.
-You have demolished Ellen G White.
-You have demolished the Godhead.
-You have demolished the Holy Spirit.
-You have demolished the Death, Burial and Resurrection.

What you teach is NOT Adventism. And what you teach is a Soul destroying FALSE DOCTRINE!And you have the cheek to call me deceived.

Lovingly LM77

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adventist4Truth" <adventist4truth@gmail.com
To: "lm77" <lm77@bigpond.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: DVD


Dear LM,

What can I say, but I told you so? The Bible does NOT teach that there is a THIRD living Person in the heavens,...Ellen White DOES! If you have a problem with this idea, then you obviously did NOT comprehend what I tried to explain about Scripture's version of the crucifixion and resurrection and Ellen White's version of the same events. You have to choose which to believe and it is obvious that you are still a good SDA. I am not trying to yell at you, brother, it is just so exasperating to write to someone that comes back with all the Ellen White quotes and only provides scant Scriptures. John 16 & 17 provides ample evidence that Christ told His disciples that He would go away and that they would NOT see Him again, but that He would ask His Father to send the Comforter to them. Before He left, He took His disciples and BLEW upon them WHAT, LM?? And WHO was it
that breathed upon them so that they received the Holy Ghost?

Ellen White was on BOTH sides of the fence on this issue. How else would you explain 6T 268.3? Which way is it, Did Christ always exist or was He Begotten of the Father? Sir, you do need to take seriously the predicament that you are in...both issues that I have brought to your attention are salvational issues. 1 John 5:16 gives us one admonition AND Christ made certain that before He left them that they clearly understood the prophecies that foretold of His cinung and death. Once one the way to Emmaus and then again in the Upper Room. The last one may not be a salvational issie but how ARE YOU going to explain the True Sabbath to someone when you yourself still believe that Christ was resurrected on that day?? ... As you can tell I ask tough questions and I don't loose my grip that easily. You need to pray as you have never prayed before, LM. You are really not too far off after all the entire world believes as you do!!

How many Thrones are there in heaven? If the Holy Ghost is a Person certainly He must have a place tosit somewhere in close proximity to Himself< surly He must be a Being that is worshipped!

I realize that this is a VERY controversial subject for those as yourself that put the Writings to be equal to OR above Scripture! SHAME ON YOU Brother, what kind of dependence can God put on you if you cannot see through this great facade?

Let me take a moment to explaining a few things to you, you can take them or leave them, LM. The Holy Spirit is shared by the Father and His Son, it is what is called their Omnipresence, the means by which they communicate with their human followers. This is the same power that was given in the Upper Room experience. Christ, Himself is the Comforter, who else can it be? Neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit have ANY saving grace upon them, it is ONLY through the power and might of Jesus Christ that sin was vanquished. Do you pray to the Holy Ghost? Why NOT Brother? I realize that you have left the SDA Church but I was just curious if you took with you one of their traits...

The Bible explains clearly in Hebrews 1 that Cod went before His created angels and had them gather around the throne so that He, the FATHER could introduce to them the NEW King of Kings and Lord of Lord. God the Father, Himself addresses Jesus as God, before this the angels had only known Him as God's Son, who was called Michael, who was also their leader. God now elevates Christ to the status of GOD Almighty who the angels are to worship as they do the Father. LM, please tell me if you understand who the ONE individual was that had a problem??

Zecharius 6:13 tells me at least, that ONLY TWO Individuals were allowed to share in the counsels of God in heaven. According to your thinking it could only have been the Holy Ghost AND Christ!

Wake up!! brother, you have been indoctrinated for how many years did you say! In fact, Doug Batchelor, in his Amazing Facts program gives credit to Ellen White for Adventist to uphold the doctrine of the trinity which is a pure pagan Rome doctrine! When is the last time you read the Statement of Beliefs on the backside of Baptismal Certificates?

Brother LM, it is hard for me to view you as a brother that has seen the Truth and to come out of the SDA Church, especially when you have not yet recognized corrupted Scriptures in the Holy Bible. This is something that Satan has ben at for hundreds and even thousands of years and is a well recognized fact. Why even the SDA Commentary sheds this fact!. For your interest only, I would highly recommend that you read "Comma Johanneun", a short document that I have on the site: http://www.a4t.org/Sermons/Misc/wresch-comma_johanneum.html

I will let you do your own research into Matt. 28:19. I will simply tell you that those were not Christ's words to His disciples. This can be proven by how badly or how reverently the disciples followed His orders in the book of Acts and other Letters written by the Apostle Paul. Of course Ellen White's writings are chock full of baptizing in the name of the trinity! What else would one expect?

When Christ gave his warning in Matt. 24:24, U wonder if He meant to watch out about being deceived by a little old lady named Ellen White? I do acknowledge that she received some levels of inspiration...but the SDA Church has taken this to mean a wholesale level of inspiration to cover ALL her writings!

She teaches a version of purgatory and even hell that few have pondered as they read her words. She said that the wicked when they come to their destruction will feel every pang of pain in their nerves and every fibre of their body! What kind of a God do YOU serve that tortures those that work against Him? Where in the Bible does it TEACH THAT? Even when we do consider those peoples that He did destroy, was it a slow lingering painfully excruciating pain? Obviously there will be major pain for the lost, but it WILL be mental anguish not physical pain.

Yes, this letter was hard to write and I bet it was hard to read and to think that it is applied to you. I write tough letters to those that are most deceived as you seem to be. You have put your trust in the red books when instead your trust should be in the red letters found in the Gospels
of many Bibles.

It was a shock to my soul when I discovered that I could no longer trust the writings of this supposed "prophet." But the Bible is very clear on the Subject of Christ's death, that there WERE TWO different Sabbaths taking place while Christ lay dead in the tomb AND NO, He did not sleep clear through the weekly Sabbath as most believe. He arose BEFORE the sun was set that Sabbath, otherwise the women that came to His tomb would have found the tomb sealed and He still inside it. Read you Bible carefully for once Brother and quite leaning on what you have been taught to believe by Satan and his minions! What Ellen White write as the traditional views that came from ROME and were carried on by the Methodist's training that
she had received. That was ALL she knew, obviously Christ or His angels did NOT inform her otherwise, after all why should they?, It was all perfectly laid out in Scripture for ANYONE to read and understand.

One more point needs to be brought out. The Bible does NOT teach anywhere that her writings are to be called the Spirit of Prophecy. BUT the Bible does give us clear instruction on WHO and WHAT the Spirit of Prophecy is. It is the same Person who ALL the martyrs took to their graves or stakes...whether it was sewn into their garments or engraved in their hearts, He went with them....why not teach that the virgin Mary is God's Mother? Why not believe that any church father can be selected by leaders of the GC and to designate their writings to be as holy? Satan has truly blown his spirit upon this church and they have obediently obeyed his
every wish. Christ plainly told us in Matt. 11:13 that John the Baptist would be the LAST prophet. I guess He made an exception for Ellen White!

Of course Ellen wrote that this would happen that her writings would be disregarded. Those words does not determine a prophet, speaking the Truth and agreeing with the Bible is the only way that we are told in testing a prophet. In fact, in her book the GC, she is not even straight on what happened during the French Revolution and she allowed Josiah Litch's
predictions to be published in her book! The Ottoman Empire WAS supposed
to be destroyed in 1840....It was finally destroyed, but NOT UNTIL 1922, 82 years LATER!! Did I miss a sacredly inspired test by which we were to know if a prophet was sent from God??

Blessings always...no hard feelings, I'm just dismayed that you are so easily deceived!

Bob De La Torre