The God of Israel?
by Bob De La Torre
Texts are shown in both the King James Version (KJV) & the Young's Literal Translation version (YLT)
This article came to be written because of an Audio Study that I was privileged to listen to recently from DTGministries, Audio Study .
Most people in Christianity today believe that the God of the Old Testament was actually the Great God, The Father, who rules over the entire universe. This is because most people believe what they are told and grant their Pastors and Bible teachers, absolute mind control when they sit in their church's pews. It is also based on their understanding of the false teaching of the Trinity doctrine. Below, hopefully, this teaching will be demonstrated to be unbiblical and founded in the concepts that come from our own minds.
The first ground rule is a proper understanding of the Holy Father AND that He is nothing but LOVE.
John 3:16 AND 17 — Read comments below
16 for God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. (KJV)
16 for God did so love the world, that His Son--the only begotten--He gave, that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during.
17 For God did not send His Son to the world that he may judge the world, but that the world may be saved through him; (YLT)
Because verse 16 does not add up to that concept of a vengeful God, willing to give up His One and Only Son to a horrible death, not to mention the torture beforehand, how then does verse 17 make sense if God was NOT doing anything to bring condemnation to this world? Something was wrong, somewhere. Either. I was misreading something in the Book or my own understanding and the world’s as well. was skewed somewhere. A basic premise of the Book, that I was taught, was that the Book, the Bible, never contradicted itself! After much study and research, I found something that somehow I had either forgotten or had purposely discarded. The story of Christ and the Samaritan woman at the well.
In John 4:24, Christ tells her:
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit, and those worshipping Him, in spirit and truth it doth behove to worship.' (YLT)
Could this even be true, I thought? What is to be taken literal, then, or spiritual, for that matter?
Yes, the Bible was/is entirely literal and true. BUT, and this is a BIG BUT and only God could do this! It was also spiritual. In fact, every single literal story and lesson in the Book, had a spiritual application!! Talk about having my mind blown away! No wonder Christ had told His disciples in Matthew 13:3 and onward about Christ speaking to the multitudes in parables only and giving His disciples understanding about the parables. It became apparent then that the possibility of the entire Bible being written in parables could be more fact than fiction, after all Who was it that directed all the prophets of old to write as they did? Whose spirit were they influenced and led by?
Once I understood that concept, it became easier to understand that the Bible was more spiritual than it was literal. In other words we were to consider it spiritually more than we were to use it as a literal lesson or Book. Digging a bit deeper, certain stories that had always appeared so literal and were so well known were shown to be allegories instead! The ones that come to mind immediately are the stories of David and Goliath, the Serpent in the Garden, the Brass Serpent, the Mount of Transfiguration, the 144,000 to mention just a few. I can provide you with the info for each of these instances as well as others...
Another astonishing fact that I discovered was that most of the descriptive words in the Scriptures were given in a symbolic manner with the Scriptures themselves providing the proper descriptions for these words. No wonder that ALL the denominations of this world are so confused about God! Which brings up another question: What is the correct definition for Babylon? (See Bible Symbols) Link on the Top Left of this page or click this link
First, we have to show from the Scriptures that God is indeed all Love, that He the Father nor the Son keeps a record of our sins. That point could not have been made any better by Christ than when He gave His very first Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5 and used the Beatitudes as the template for our attitudes with all mankind on this earth. For my sake and lack of memory, I want to list the traits that are mentioned in the Beatitudes:
Blessed are the Poor, they that Mourn, the Meek, Those that Hunger & Thirst, Merciful, Pure in Heart, Peacemakers, those Persecuted, Reviled and Verbally Abused.
1 John 4:8,14 & 16 — You cannot love mankind by keeping the Law, the reverse IS TRUE
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
8 for his disciples were gone away to the city, that they may buy victuals; (YLT)
14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. (KJV)
14 but whoever may drink of the water that I will give him, may not thirst--to the age; and the water that I will give him shall become in him a well of water, springing up to life age-during.' (YLT)
16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. (KJV)
16 and we--we have known and believed the love, that God hath in us; God is love, and he who is remaining in the love, in God he doth remain, and God in him. (YLT)
1 Corinthians 13:4-8 — These verses describe the Character of God totally
4 Charity (Love) suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunt not itself, is not puffed up,
5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. (KJV)
4 The love is long-suffering, it is kind, the love doth not envy, the love doth not vaunt itself, is not puffed up,
5 doth not act unseemly, doth not seek its own things, is not provoked, doth not impute evil,
6 rejoiceth not over the unrighteousness, and rejoiceth with the truth;
7 all things it beareth, all it believeth, all it hopeth, all it endureth.
8 The love doth never fail; and whether there be prophecies, they shall become useless; whether tongues, they shall cease; whether knowledge, it shall become useless; (YLT)
In comparing the two lists, those are character traits that we all desire to have, but do not. Wouldn't’t you say?
Isaiah describes a trait that only God the Father possesses:
Isaiah 40:28 — This verse is describing the Father God
Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding. (KJV)
Here is another trait of the Father that shows that He could not have been the God of Israel.
Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard? The God of the age--Jehovah, Preparer of the ends of the earth, Is not wearied nor fatigued, There is no searching of His understanding. (YLT)
Job 11:7 — God's wisdom is unmeasureable - To even think that one can know God is laughable!
Canst thou by searching find out God? canst thou find out the Almighty unto perfection? (KJV)
By searching dost thou find out God? Unto perfection find out the Mighty One? (YLT)
John 1:18 — Only Jesus Christ has seen the Father and thus only Christ Knows the Father - Yet, we can resemble His character
No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. (KJV)
God no one hath ever seen; the only begotten Son, who is on the bosom of the Father--he did declare. (YLT)
This verse should nail it down for most individuals, yet most still prefer to believe that the God who gave the Ten Commandments was the Father God. People forget that if they are not taught of the Father, they would know absolutely nothing of Him, because only Christ has discerned the Father and can describe Him to those that will listen to Him....not a Church.
Numbers 11:25 — Michael, or Christ appears in a Cloud to Moses, Aaron and the 70 Elders
And the LORD came down in a cloud, and spake unto him, and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied, and did not cease. (KJV)
and Jehovah cometh down in the cloud, and speaketh unto him, and keepeth back of the Spirit which is on him, and putteth on the seventy men of the elders; and it cometh to pass at the resting of the Spirit on them, that they prophesy, and do not cease. (YLT)
In this example, the God of Israel shows Himself in a Cloud to Moses, Aaron and 70 Elders of the Camp. Obviously, He was visible to them even thought it was in a Cloud. God the Father has never made Himself visible in any form or manner.
Numbers 12:8 — Michael, or Christ is able to speak face-to-face to whom He wishes
With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? (KJV)
mouth unto mouth I speak with him, and by an appearance, and not in riddles; and the form of Jehovah he beholdeth attentively; and wherefore have ye not been afraid to speak against My servant--against Moses?' (YLT)
I believe it is pretty evident by this verse alone that if a person is to believe the Word of God, that it was indeed impossible for the God of Israel to have been God the Father. ... but let us go a little further in this study...
Hebrews 1:4 — Because Michael, Christ is the legitimate Son of God, He was not created as angels or mankind were, He is an heir
4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. (KJV)
having become so much better than the messengers, as he did inherit a more excellent name than they. (YLT)
This verse tells me that Christ, or Michael as He was called, received His Godship or divinity at His birth in the infinity of time. That His name (Yahweh) was something that He inherited from His Father God. Which is why we see that name used in the Bible to describe the God of Israel, when normally it would be reserved for the Almighty Father God.
Genesis 18:1 — Another manner for Michael, Christ or the God of Israel to manifest Himself
And the LORD appeared unto him [Abram] in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; (KJV)
And Jehovah appeareth unto him among the oaks of Mamre, and he is sitting at the opening of the tent, about the heat of the day; (YLT)
In Exodus 3:6 — The God of Israel which appeared to Moses in a burning bush describes Himself —
6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God. (KJV)
He saith also, `I am the God of thy father, God of Abraham, God of Isaac, and God of Jacob;' and Moses hideth his face, for he is afraid to look towards God. (YLT)
The above verse can also be used to show that it was Michael or the God of Israel who created humanity and all things as well through the will of His Father.
The following verses will show the two Gods, the Father and His Son being compared –
Isaiah 40:12-25 — The abilities of God are described, then Christ's asks if He is considered to be as an equal?
12 Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance?
13 Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taught him?
14 With whom took he counsel, and who instructed him, and taught him in the path of judgment, and taught him knowledge, and shewed to him the way of understanding?
15 Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.
16 And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, nor the beasts thereof sufficient for a burnt offering.
17 All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
18 To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?
19 The workman melteth a graven image, and the goldsmith spreadeth it over with gold, and casteth silver chains.
20 He that is so impoverished that he hath no oblation chooseth a tree that will not rot; he seeketh unto him a cunning workman to prepare a graven image, that shall not be moved.
21 Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?
22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
23 That bringeth the princes to nothing; he maketh the judges of the earth as vanity.
24 Yea, they shall not be planted; yea, they shall not be sown: yea, their stock shall not take root in the earth: and he shall also blow upon them, and they shall wither, and the whirlwind shall take them away as stubble.
25 To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One. (KJV)
12 Who hath measured in the hollow of his hand the waters? And the heavens by a span hath meted out, And comprehended in a measure the dust of the earth, And hath weighed in scales the mountains, And the hills in a balance?
13 Who hath meted out the Spirit of Jehovah, And, being His counsellor, doth teach Him!
14 With whom consulted He, That he causeth Him to understand? And teacheth Him in the path of judgment, And teacheth Him knowledge? And the way of understanding causeth Him to know?
15 Lo, nations as a drop from a bucket, And as small dust of the balance, have been reckoned, Lo, isles as a small thing He taketh up.
16 And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, Nor its beasts sufficient for a burnt-offering.
17 All the nations are as nothing before Him, Less than nothing and emptiness, They have been reckoned to Him. and because He is incomparable, comforts the people
18 And unto whom do ye liken God, And what likeness do ye compare to Him?
19 The graven image poured out hath a artisan, And a refiner with gold spreadeth it over, And chains of silver he is refining.
20 He who is poor by heave-offerings, A tree not rotten doth choose, A skilful artisan he seeketh for it, To establish a graven image--not moved.
21 Do ye not know--do ye not hear? Hath it not been declared from the first to you? Have ye not understood From the foundations of the earth?
22 He who is sitting on the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are as grasshoppers, He who is stretching out as a thin thing the heavens, And spreadeth them as a tent to dwell in.
23 He who is making princes become nothing, Judges of earth as emptiness hath made;
24 Yea, they have not been planted, Yea, they have not been sown, Yea, not taking root in the earth is their stock, And also He hath blown upon them, and they wither, And a whirlwind as stubble taketh them away.
25 And unto whom do ye liken Me, And am I equal? saith the Holy One. (YLT)
Proverbs 30:4 — Michael, Christ, The God of Israel humbly compares Himself to His Father
4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? (KJV)
Who went up to heaven, and cometh down? Who hath gathered the wind in his fists? Who hath bound waters in a garment? Who established all ends of the earth? What is His name? and what His son's name? Surely thou knowest! (YLT)
Psalms 2:11,12 — The wrath of God and His Son spiritually means that they will turn Their faces away and not be there for you
11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. (KJV)
11 Serve ye Jehovah with fear, And rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Chosen One, lest He be angry, And ye lose the way, When His anger burneth but a little, O the happiness of all trusting in Him! (YLT)
What most people fail to understand is that Christ had adversity towards humanity as much as humanity had adversity towards God the Father. This adversity is demonstrated throughout the OT. Michael had only known Love from His Father, thus He took it very inwardly when dishonor was brought upon His Father. The Flood shows this as does Moses’ experience with Him when Moses went back up the Mount after destroying the tablets of stone, representing His Law. How often in the OT have you read this phrase “And the anger of the Lord was kindled”? Do you ever wonder why it took so long for Christ to appear the first time? The Book of Hebrews gives us several examples of the trials and examples that God the Father had to teach His Son before He was perfected to the point that He could show and live the Love that His heavenly Father wanted Him to bear to humanity. Here is a very important and KEY point that everyone who reaches Heaven alive will have to know before they are granted the honor of being one of the 144,000. They will have understood that Christ did not die for the sake of our sins or to appease His Father’s anger. It was only by the Death of His only begotten Son that God the Father was able to show that HE retaliated NOT against those that killed His very own Son. Trust me, Brother, I am very aware that I am jumping leaps and bounds from the lessons that I have provided so far. But yet, there is so much to learn and so much to UNLEARN. I can only say this because I have had to go down this road and the hardest road for me to learn to travel on was the road that led into the Law. Oh Yes, Bro, there is Big Time misinformation on that one! And guess if you dare, who is one of the biggest proponents of this misinformation or can we rightly call it deception?
Around the time of the prophet Zechariah and then Malachi, Christ and His Father had a meeting, which is recorded in Zechariah 6. It was evident that Christ knew by then that it was His Father's wish that He come to this earth and be the human example of what His Father wanted humanity to understand about Him and that His Law was to be seen only under His pretext or definition of Love. Loving others as you love yourself. How the people had taken His Father’s holy Law and turned it inside out and changed it to their own understanding and application. If you look at what the Bible says about the Covenants, you will see and know already that there were two Covenants promised to the Jews. The first, would have been sufficient had the Jewish nation not tried to subjugate it to their own understanding and reasoning. Even in the time of Moses, the LAW was given as a spiritual law. That was pointed out by Christ in Luke 16:16. Then, the Apostle Paul really delves into it. Most Christians today back away by simply stating that Paul’s writings are quite hard to understand. That is only an excuse because what he says is all too clear when looked at our scriptures in the Bible, and there are quite a few! Especially in Romans 7 & 8, Colossians, Galatians and Hebrews. I won’t say most Christians this time, but I am going to specifically mention the SDA's because their entire denomination would NOT exist were it not for their belief that the 7th day Sabbath must be kept holy and of course the word holy is defined by their own beliefs, not the Scriptures. Ask any to think of the Law in spiritual terms and they will laugh you out of the Church or think that you came down from Mars! This is not to pick on one denomination, because each and every denomination contains it's own set of man's teachings which they will swear came straight out of the Scriptures ... literally ... Obviously. the Second Covenant was in effect during Christ’s life on Earth, after all, who else was the surety of it’s completion. Have you ever wondered why there was a Second Covenant? Was the First Covenant ever completed? Or think of it this way, why did God have to have a Second Covenant? Please allow me to say that it should not be of any surprise to see that the First Covenant with ALL it’s requirements ended when the Second Covenant took effect. That is exactly what is being said in Luke verse and all the other ones by Paul in which he states that the Law is DEAD. For an SDA to understand this is to admit that he or his church made a mistake or is in error in some way and that is harder than pulling a wisdom tooth without anesthesia! When a Christian or lets say a follower of Christ seeks personal one on one time with His Lord and Savior on a daily basis this is what God was trying to show the Jewish nation was proper worship of God. This is and was the spiritual allocation for the 4th Commandment. Christ described proper application of the Law by the following short phrase: “Thou shalt Love thy neighbor as thyself”. Do you know when that statement was first made?
[There should not be any angst felt towards any one denomination, as much as humans are attached to things from man. Worship can only be defined by God and He is not in a worship mode until SIN is eradicated completely. What God wants above all is for humanity to understand and accept the Love that He has for them as Christ stated in John 3:16,17, a Love that equals the Love that He had for His very own Son]
Leviticus 19:18 — Please look again from which Book this is quoted!
Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. (KJV)
`Thou dost not take vengeance, nor watch the sons of thy people; and thou hast had love to thy neighbour as thyself; I am Jehovah. (YLT)
But unfortunately, after 400 years of slavery, the only words that were instilled and made sense in the Hebrew's minds were the words found a couple of chapters later in Exodus 21, when Moses tells them that justice is 'an eye for an eye' and 'a tooth for a tooth', which was the basis for the Mosaic Law. This is why the 10 Commandments were given, yet this Law was given as a spiritual Law not a literal law, as Paul affirms it in Romans 7:14.
For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. (KJV)
for we have known that the law is spiritual, and I am fleshly, sold by the sin; (YLT)
But Christ quickly reemphasized His Father's True and proper law as given in Matthew 5:43-46
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? (KJV)
43 `Ye heard that it was said: Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and shalt hate thine enemy;
44 but I--I say to you, Love your enemies, bless those cursing you, do good to those hating you, and pray for those accusing you falsely, and persecuting you,
45 that ye may be sons of your Father in the heavens, because His sun He doth cause to rise on evil and good, and He doth send rain on righteous and unrighteous.
46 `For, if ye may love those loving you, what reward have ye? do not also the tax-gatherers the same? (YLT)
Now, don’t you find it a bit odd that in Matthew 19:17-19 when asked how to get to heaven by a young man. Christ tells him to keep the commandments and when asked “Which?” Christ lists 5 of the ten, never mentioning the 4th in His list? Let’s look a little closer at Matthew 22:35-40.
35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. (KJV)
35 and one of them, a lawyer, did question, tempting him, and saying,
36 `Teacher, which is the great command in the Law?'
37 And Jesus said to him, `Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thine understanding--
38 this is a first and great command;
39 and the second is like to it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself;
40 on these--the two commands--all the law and the prophets do hang.'
and silences the Pharisees about the Messiah (YLT)
Christ was asked a direct question concerning the Law. It could appear that according to Christ the Sabbath is NOT the Great Commandment in the Law, instead He says that the First and Great Commandment is Loving the Father God in all of our heart, soul and mind. But, Bro, I found it odd again that in verse 40 Christ says that in these two Love Commandments hangs ALL the law and the prophets?! Shall we compare this statement with Luke 16:16 again? It would appear to my naive mind that if the Law and the prophets are equal to the Ten Commandments and all the other literal requirements proclaimed by the prophets of God (Himself) then that would also mean that the Love angle to the commandments supercedes all of God’s commandments and requirements.
What is being left out is that Christ WAS speaking to s Jewish mind set, who put the Law, or rather, Moses' Law, above everything else in their lives. The Law of Moses took precedent to everything in their existence. You lived or even died according to it's precepts. This is why Christ contrasted His teachings to what Moses had written in Exodus 21:23-27 and on and on ...
Exodus 21:23-27 — This Chapter is still considered as part of the Law of Moses. The Law was given in Love, but it was interpreted by all of it's readers as described in Exodus 21
23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
26 And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake.
27 And if he smite out his manservant's tooth, or his maidservant's tooth; he shall let him go free for his tooth's sake. (KJV)
23 and if there is mischief, then thou hast given life for life,
24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
26 `And when a man smiteth the eye of his man-servant, or the eye of his handmaid, and hath destroyed it, as a
reeman he doth send him away for his eye;
27 and if a tooth of his man-servant or a tooth of his handmaid he knock out, as a freeman he doth send him away for his tooth. (YLT)
What Christ was telling His Jewish listeners was not that He was encouraging them to not keep or follow the Laws of Moses, but that if His principles were kept then the Laws of Moses would also be honored. In other words, the Laws were kept when Love was applied to them, rather than the Laws being kept for the Law's sake, because there is no righteousness in the Law. The Law was designed for evil doers, not for the righteous.
During my research, I came across these interesting verses found in the Psalms:
Psalms 119:27, 159, 165 — David describes the attributes of God's law or precepts
27 Make me to understand the way of thy precepts: so shall I talk of thy wondrous works. (KJV)
27 The way of Thy precepts cause me to understand, And I meditate in Thy wonders. (YLT)
159 Consider how I love thy precepts: quicken me, O LORD, according to thy loving kindness. (KJV)
159 See, for thy precepts I have loved, Jehovah, According to Thy kindness quicken me. (YLT)
165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them. (KJV)
165 Abundant peace have those loving Thy law, And they have no stumbling-block. (YLT)
The question that popped into my mind was, were the laws and precepts spoken of by David referring to the literal Ten Commandments, or did David possess an inside look or insight into God ’s spiritual way of looking at His Law?
Please allow me to share an insight that I have since discovered through my studies that I feel will help all who care to see this as the Bible portrays it: The OT or Old Testament was written by the prophets as inspired or directed by Michael, the literal Son of God, also known as the God of Israel. The NT or New Testament, was written by the Apostles, AFTER the event at the Cross, AFTER Christ had received the Holy Spirit from His Father in Heaven (see John 7:39). The conclusion can be made that Christ did NOT yet possess the Holy Spirit during the writing of the OT, but did in fact possess it and was able to impart it to the writers of the NT. This concept will not be comprehended until a person sees that Christ was not yet Completed or perfected until His Resurrection; thus it can be said that Christ or Michael was not in a perfected state of mind during the OT days. For simplification's sake, consider a stalk of Corn as it grows to the point that it produces a stalk of corn. Each day as the plant grows it is perfect, BUT, it has not yet reached it's Completed or perfected state until the corn stalk has reached it's maturity and can be harvested. So it was with Christ during His OT days when He displayed Himself as 'The Angry God' of the OT that everyone has grown to dread and fear and where the belief in burning in hell for ever and ever, comes from.
I hope that the first ground rule has been reinforced in all the readers, to the point that they can see that for God to have sent His One and Only Son to die for the human race, that He, God the Father, had to have first loved His future children on this Earth as MUCH as He loved His very own Son, Jesus Christ, who was called Michael during His life in heaven until He, Christ, became the God of Israel in His inherited role as the Son of God. He did not reach the Completeness or the 'perfection' of His Father until He, Christ had walked through the portals of death at Gethsemene and fully accepted it and then asked for His Father to forgive those that had put Him to death. THAT was the Father's complete and full intent; for humanity to understand His desire for them, His Love for them should be the same as the love that His children should show to their fellowman at all times. God wanted all to see and understand that His Son was the price that He, the Father of this very own Son, was the price that He was willing to pay so that all would understand the Love that He, the Holy Father. had for each and every one of us.
At the same time we should fully accept and understand that both the Father and the Son have their own separate identities AND Spirits.
1 Corinthians 1:3, 4 —
3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
4 I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ; (KJV)
3 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ!
4 I give thanks to my God always concerning you for the grace of God that was given to you in Christ Jesus, (YLT)
In the end, I can only hope that the conclusion that you will come to is the obvious fact that the God of Israel was nailed to a cross and that the God of the new God of Israel was now the Redeemer of Israel as well as the Gentiles and that now He was in full Partnership with His Holy Father who had always been the spiritual God of Israel as well as the Gentiles!
The best suggestion that I can give is for the reader to become a listener and click on this link: audio study.
# # # # #